I just want to ask a real simple and quick question. Do you think that if Michael Vick had the seasons he's had the past two years, would the Atlanta Falcons organazation have offered the multi-million, multi-year deal to Vick? I give an answer at a later date, I don't want to change your minds one way or another, I want your honest answers.
No. I don't think he is that good of a QB. I don't think his ego could handle the move but if I was the coach (and had an owner that didn't worship Vick) I would make him a WR.
Amy
He is that good! read your stats baby, no one in the nfl can do what he does. i think people seem to forget the he is not the only player for the falcons. maybe if his supporting cast did thier jobs i guess there wouldn't be a question. Thier is no I in TEAM! he can't do it alone and he shouldn't be expected too!
Vick is not a "route" passer. Someone as Steve Smith of Carolina is a route runner. He may do 3 or more moves before he gets to the area the suppose to be in. Vick can not handle this type of "route" plays. In other words, he's not a "pure" QB.
I have said it before and I will say it again.... 2,000+ yards passing, 20 touchdowns, all while those bum receivers dropped over 40 balls.
If they would have cought half the balls they dropped we could possibly talking about one of the greates QB seasons ever!!!
I have to agree with atlqball10.
Mike is making the throws pretty **** accurately. Hell even watching the games you can see the receivers drop the ball like their damned gloves/hands have **** on them.
There needs to be more work with Vick and his receivers.
He became a high paid QB because of his talent, because he's unique. Its just a **** shame that they cant make it work cohesively with the rest of the team.
if he some how makes it through the year, draft a no. 1 receiver next year
YES! Vick had a struggling recieving group outside of crumpler but this season there will be promising.
Vick is soooo overrated... A good QB makes his team better and he obviously isnt doing that
MAYBE ALL OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT VICK WILL BE ANSWERED IF HE GOES TO PLACE WHERE HE WILL WISH HE SEATTLED FOR ONLY FTBL.
DOG SPELLED BACKWARDS IS GOD AND ANIMALS ARE GODS CREATIONS.
OOPS.! SETTLED AND GOES TO A PLACE. wHERE IS EDIT ON HERE HAHA!!!!!!
Vick's an unbelievable quarterback, his only risk factors are his mobility and his accuracy. Even though I hate to take Woody Paige's side, Until that burns him... he's one of the best. Him being a running back would just have sped up the injury calandar.
The Falcons are actually fortunate that the decision to dump Vick will be made for them.
The animals tortured and killed by Vick, not so fortunate. I hope Vick suffers.
the ghetto does not wash off.
Vick is a quality QB who has not had the best OL around him. In the last couple of years I've seen dozens & dozens of passes dropped that were ON THE MONEY - many at very key moments in the games! The Falcons need quality receivers badly. Letting Schaub go to the Texans was unavoidable as in another year he was an unrestricted free-agent & would have bolted anyway... better that ATL got something for him instead of zilch.I just hope Schaub doesn't come back to bite us like Brett Favre did (over & over again). As for Vick & the nasty story developing in VA., Vick is INNOCENT until proven otherwise. I am sickened by this story but I believe him when he says he didn't know. Maybe I'm naive, maybe the media are like paranas waiting to slice&dice their next victim in order to sell a story. I'll wait on a judge & jury to decide the man's guilt. Until then, he is innocent, period! GO FALCONS!!!
Yes, I think Vicks worth it he's a QB that can do alot of things when touches the ball. If you look at last season his offensive coordinator called bone head plays that had him running for his life. Which in a way produced a single season rushing reacord for a QB, setting a record loses its steam if you don't win the game. But when your recievers drop passes and ya running for you life through out the game people start to criticize rather than empathize. Coach Mora empathized with vick it cost him his job but Vick is worth it and with the crap he's going through now do not be surprised if he his a break out season.
i am not a michael vick fan.
he is the most exciting player to watch in all of pro sports. no one runs like him. no one throws a prettier ball.
he could be one of the greatest of all time, if he applied himself and if he allowed himself to be coached. but he won't.
he's both great (as a player) and a waste (as a player).
aurther blank will have no choice but to cut MV, he has stood by his morals in the past and cut any one less then acceptable morally. Vick is gone in the ATL. too bad he finally got a real head coach and will never reach his potential in ATL
Let me get this straight.Chris Benoit murders his family while on steroids but hes given a tribute.Michael Vick is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty.Whats wrong with this picture?
Chris Benoit, the fake wrestler goes insane on steroids and murders his familty and is given a tribute.Michael Vick has not been found guilty of anything,and is being villified.Whats wrong with this picture?
Some one cut to the chase when they said you can't wash the Ghetto off. The indictment show that all too well!
Treat him like he treated the dogs... As Michael Vick is worse than any dog... I do hope that for once people stand up and say they are fed up with actions like this LOW LIFE ****.
The NFL should not let him play in the league ever again and show others that playing in the league is something that should be valued.
If this is done right this could be a turning point - if little or nothing is done, the leages are condoning this behavior.
I wish I was an opposing player and had a chance to hit this pus bag of life and treat him the way he treated those dogs.
Why should the NFL show mercy for vick. He did not show any mercy for the dogs he abused and killed. Get rid of him. There are great quarterbacks that don't beat up dogs.
If the Foulcans don't sack Vick like everyone else has, and the NFL doesn't ban him for life, I'll ban the NFL in my home. My lone regret is that he won't be in Philly this year. You think throwing snowballs at Santa Claus was harsh...?
I think he is way overrated. He is a confused running back that happens to be able to throw on the run. Plus with all of the off field issues, his head is not right. Check out this funny shirt that says it all! www.michaelconvick.com. Classic!
Do you even have to ask, Vick is the FRANCHISE PLAYER for Atlanta and the only reason that I am a season ticket holder. There is not another more exciting player in the league and regardless as to what you hater that are blinded by your compassion for VICIOUS DOGS that would turn on you in a heartbeat, you know he brought new life into the game too. Stop juding him, he will have his day and what a GLORIOS DAY it will be when he is VINDICATED and then he should really give you disloyal FALCON FANS the middle finger as he laughs all the way to the bank.
He's Worth Keeping If They Trade Vick They Wont Go to A Superbowl No Time Soon Especially Wit Joey Harrinton Sorry A**. And The Stands Will Be As Empty as if Chris Chandler was still QB'n. Mark My Words.
Vick a geat QB! He deserve more money! Give this man his money after he beat these false charges!
Michael Vick doesn't get his tribute until he's dead. If he wants his tribute any sooner then he should kindly dunk himself in water and electrocute himself. If he can't do it himself I'm sure that there are plenty of folk out here that would lend him a hand.
Vick will get us to the super bowl if yall dont attack him for nothing. lets wait till the court play out!
Vick is the most ignorant and incompetent SOB in the history of this world. All of you defending a DOG MURDERER should get the same torture for what he put those innocent dogs through. I won't be so harsh on Vick, if there weren't incompetent and ignorant "Vick fans" which can't be Atlanta fans, b/c true fans support the whole team, not just an ignorant **** like Vick. Falcon's fans are such hypocrites who would want the harshest sentence possible to these sadistic and barbaric acts unless if it's Vick. Yes, this is the Packer's fans, and here this losers, we come to support the whole team. I have 2 dogs and if I ever see Vick, I will train them to give him the same torture he gave those innocent dogs. Also, it sucks for you guys no Vick jersey will be on shelves in stores. You and Vick get what every Atlanta fair weather fan deserves!!! GO PACK GO!!!!
i'll answer with a question..has he ever won a superbowl or even got us in?
I love to watch Vick play and hope that he beats these charges Im a season pass holder and will be there no matter what but its just so much better when he is on the field.I know many people disagree with me but thats their opinion and I respect that.If hes found guilty then I will be sad but Ill live.And I can be honest if he really did what hes charged with he deserves to be punished but I have always believed in innocent until proven guilty and the people that are involved in this with him are probably going to turn on him, and I also believe before its all said and done there will be many well known players that will be implicated also, so many of these people that are wanting Vicks head on a platter may have some of the favorite players in court also.
If Vick was innocent wouldn't you think he would come out and hold a press conference or something...He's done nothing because he's guilty as hell and he knows it...... Hope they throw the book at him, then let some pit bulls out after him. Rot in hell Vick.
Vick is a ****. If he was innocent he would have held a press conference or issued a statement of some sorts. Hope they throw the book at him, then let out a few pit bulls out after him. Rot in jail pal.
This guy will never see another down in the NFL.
Thread Over.
In a word- NO. He is extremely overrated. I've never thought he merited the rave reviews he always got. As a outstanding athelete, he is more than qualified. As a team leader, he is a failure.
I've never been one to say atheletes are supposed to be models of our society, but I think any **** who would hurt a dog should pay for it big-time. Hopefully, the NFL puts a lifetime ban on him. Pete Rose was banned from baseball for BETTING for gods sake!
Vickfan4life and dk0614 obviously doesn't know what it means to plead GUILTY to a federal crime. Vick is not sorry for what he did, he's just sorry that he got caught. Do you honestly believe that he would have stopped fighting dogs if this investigation hadn't taken place? Heck, the guy couldn't even apologize in person, which shows how remorseful he really is about the whole situation. He plead guilty because he could no longer lie and get away with it. Vick is as good as done, if not for the dogfighting and lying to the commissioner and Falcons owner, but because he gambled. Sorry if you Falcons fans will never see Vick in a Falcons unifrom before, but just because a guy fills up seats doesn't mean he's above the law.
And for Vickfan4life, who believes that pitbulls are naturally vicious, you could not be more ignorant. Pitbulls are vicious because they are trained to be vicious. I have friends with pitbulls that are the nicest dogs you'll ever meet. When pitbulls are adopted or bred by owners that simply want to fight them, then yes, they become vicious. Put them in a good environment, and they're good pets. They're products of their environment.
In the end, Michael Vick will be a passing thought, a footnote in the history of football, and all the apologies and athletc plays in the world will not change that.
Mike Vick might make the HALL OF SHAME one day
I'm a long time fan..love the sport, the Falcons, NFL. But what's wrong with you folks that you can't separate right from wrong? Wankle...get it...Benoit has nothing to do with this except to confirm our society has its' priorities totally mixed up. At least Benoit was on mind altering drugs....was Vick? I'd even feel better....that he could torture, maim and murder innocent animals WITHOUT being on drugs is the more frightening thought. When will sport fans and Americans be smart enough to separate 'stars' and athletes from their JOB and hold them responsible for their actions. NO team is worth this kind of unethical and immoral role modeling. If the Falcons do not unload him and the NFL ban him, then I will do everything I can to convince everybody I know to NEVER support another Falcons or NFL game! Owners...listen UP!
Kelly
Okay so all of you people have never sinned? there is no such thing as a little sin or a big sin in gods' eyes. Remember we can't judge him. The president made amistake(deliberately) and thousands of woman,childen and soldiers have dies because of it and we still allow him to finish out his term...what a JOKE!!!! No I don't condone dogfighting but pit bulls aren't the little darlings PETA makes them out to be either. If PETA is going to get their p&&nties in a knot then maybe we should throw all deer hunters in jail, chicken killers in jail, people who buy meat and eat it in jail, the list goes on. Aren't these other animals worthy of such media attention? Or is it because the majority of people that own farms and food stores and restaurants white? Go figure! It doesn't take a rocket science to see that this country is racist, has been for 400 years and hasn't changed much in the last 50 years. If you want a role model for your children look in the mirror at yourself and they will have no need to have to look to these athletes to raise them!! Whether Vick goes to jail or not he will not be broke and I hope he comes out a better person and on top in whatever job he sets out to do. People talked about Jesus but he is sitting on a throne now(haha) If Vick can remeber that then he will have the last laugh for sure!!!
This could get interesting. I just saw DidVickSnitch dot com on sale on ebay. Probably many opinions about this. We all feel this crime is wrong but many also feel that snitching is bad also. It will be interesting to see if the site leans towards yes or no on the "Snitch" angle. I have also seen people saying that Michael Vick ratted out DMX.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120155702427&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=002
This could get interesting. I just saw DidVickSnitch dot com on sale on ebay. Probably many opinions about this. We all feel this crime is wrong but many also feel that snitching is bad also. It will be interesting to see if the site leans towards yes or no on the "Snitch" angle. I have also seen people saying that Michael Vick ratted out DMX.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120155702427&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=002
When the man was playing everyone of you haters were impressed with his ability. he was accurate with his passes, his receivers just couldn't hold on to the ball.
y is anyone even asking this queston of course he is worth is he went 14-2 as a rookie the falcons didnt just bring him in to throw they brought him in b/c he can run and thats wat he does run so keep running cik and keep ur head up
If he would have played last year, it would have been make or break (at least with the fans)...flashes of brilliance but no consistency.