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Great_1 said 01/22, 05:56 PM
When there is absolutely nothing on, I sometimes let it play in the background while I do other things around the house. I admit, that I used to be a HUGE fan back in the Hulkamania days growing up, and then even into late teens with Stone Cold and The Rock.
But now, that show is just complete garbage. Now I know its not "real" and that matches are staged. That isn't the argument here, so don't accept this trying to say its real. My point (and argument) is that back when the Hulkster was the face of the WWF, it was great entertainment, and had success for many years. But now, the entertainers are boring and the plots are lame. It is a terrible excuse for a soap opera.
Gruden is Moses said 01/22, 06:17 PM
I used to be the biggest wrestling fan on the planet. I worshipped Dusty Rhodes, Rick Rude, Hulk, etc. But that being said, it was a joke all along. I can't imagine people sitting around thinking "this is good quality entertainment". It was always a soap opera featuring men in tights, instead of hot women in tights. To say that it has fallen far means that it was high quality when The Iron Sheik was waving the Iranian flag, or when the Undertaker used to raise from the dead in the middle of the ring.
What happened is: You got older. That's all. Now that you've outgrown it, it looks childish and lame. But honestly........it always was. Its the same reason you don't watch Scooby Doo anymore.
Great_1 said 01/22, 06:24 PM
I still watch Scooby Doo. Good take on the subject, but I disagree. The demographics of the WWE show that the majority of their fans are 18-30 year old men. Why do u think most of the plots now are pushing sex? Back in the day, there were no diva's running around making out with each other in their panties. The females were glamours ladies like Sensational Sherry and Elizabeth.
What happened was they pushed the envelope too far. I saw a recently deceased wreslter's wife, making out with some other dude on the show as part of a plot. That is just disgustingly disrespectful. The plots of american patriotism (Hulk Vs The Shiek) and great gimmicks (Road Warriors, Demolition, etc...) are now gone. And I read that Vince McMahon supposedly got blown up in his limo. Give me a break. That's just stupid. While it may have been cheesy back in the Andre the Giant days, it was still decent entertainment. Nowadays, I wouldnt even let my kid watch it
Gruden is Moses said 01/22, 06:32 PM
LOL, the demographics were ALWAYS teenagers and young adults. Vince McMahon has died, or nearly died several times. Rick Rude stole Ted Dibiase's wife. The Shiek stepping on the American flag was every bit as disrespectful as someone's wife making out with another wrestler. Macho Man has his wife stolen by another wrestler, even though in real life they were happily married.
And yes, there were always women dressed scantily. The difference is simply in the standards of the day. People thought that the Faboulous Moola's outfit was skimpy back in her day. Just as pictures of a woman's ankle were risque in the 1800's.
The point it, is was cheesy then, and its cheesy now. But in the end, its just fake actors putting on a show.
Great_1 said 01/22, 08:00 PM
We can sit here and argue demographics, plotlines and the like for days on end, but the fact remains:
The quality of the show has been on a decline for years. It may have always been fake, it may have always been cheesy... but the good ole' days of Hulkster, Jake the Snake, Tito Santana and Hawk/Animal are long gone. "superstars" like Randy Orton, MVP and that marine dude that says "you can't see me" are pathetic. I am never gonna say that it wasn't a soap opera for guys, or that it never targeted young males... I am saying that the show is WORSE now, than it was even 10 years ago. 20 years ago, you can't even compare. It was garbage, but it was entertaining garbage.
Gruden is Moses said 01/22, 08:58 PM
Well, the argument you make is based on the fact that plotlines are going south. So I don't know what else to argue. The entire show is about plotlines. Nothing else. The characters change, but the show goes on. Just like a soap opera. Garbage is garbage. Period.
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Damn !! Beat Me To It !!
WWE was a joke LONG before "The Hulkster" left little dude !
" WH00ooo..... "
Zags4final4
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WWE is a joke. It is also losing its fans to UFC. UFC markets itself just like WWE and is stealing its college age fan base that it once had.
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When was WWE anything but a joke?? The UFC should be the new punch line now, its just as funny.
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great 1, I was just saying how terrible it was yesterday. It used to be that in every show, every match was a great one, had a bunch of great plots and it was fun. Now its that all the matches are horse ****, there is only one decent plot, and it's just that you wanna jump in front of a moving truck when you watch this. And the worst thing is, they don't even give a **** who's doing steroids. Seriously, their first offense is a damn warning. What a joke.
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UFC markets itself like WWE? how so Bucky?
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Surfer777 Your right the WWE is a joke and is always will be. But i don't see how you think the UFC is a joke. Sounds like you got beat up to much as a kid.
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I agree Lynch. Well said
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not seeing wwe being more than crap to begin with...granted i loved watching the macthes growing up...but i still new that they were fake...
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I used to somewhat enjoy watching wrestling. Then Stacy Keibler left...so that was the end of that.
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It was always fake, but at least it was fun back in the day: Jimmy Snuka, Macho Man, Hulkster, George The Animal Steele, Roddy Piper, Bret Hart... you just can't compare those guys with today's list of stars: John Cena, Edge, JBL, etc.... not even close. Vote to the left
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Can I vote against both of these Hogan Fans?
and then one says the D word (Dusty) but redeems himself with the Rick Rude comment
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