Duquesne - Roy exposed... said 05/11, 11:29 PM
Of the 4 major professional sports (Baseball, Hockey, Basketball, and Football), the one where home field/court advantage is the most important is basketball.
In baseball, rarely do teams sweep their home games so i would put it as least important home field advantage. In Hockey, you could make the argument that the Pens and Red Wings are enjoying the homecourt advantage, but I still don't think home ice is as important as in other sports. In football, there seems to always be upsets in the playoffs (see NY Giants SuperBowl run last year and the Steelers in 2005-6). It's imporant, but it doesn't seem to be as important as it is in basketball.
In Basketball, look at the Jazz's regular season: 37-4 and 17-24 on the road. Losing 20 more games away than they do at home is just crazy! Look at this years playoffs alone: The home team was 30-14 in round 1 and 14-1 in round 2.
The Spurs, Hornets, Celtics, and Lakers all are undefeated at home this year in the playoffs.
Now I'm not saying home field/ice advantage isn't important in the other sports...but I am saying that it is the MOST important to teams in the NBA.
Steveo16220 says:30 days left said 05/12, 02:26 AM
Let me start off by saying that there will be examples disproving both of our picks....no matter what sport we choose there will be examples of where home court didn't come in the favor of the home team
With this being said i will take Home court advantage for football
I take it for football due to the fact that during the playoffs there is only 1 game in every round of the playoffs.So in return having Home field advantage during only one game is HUGE against a team that will never have it seeing it is only a 1 game series
Where in Baseball, basketball and hockey, BOTH teams have an advantage during the series to play at home...In football the road team will A severe disadvantage, by not being able to play at home and have the support of their home town fans
Right now it may seem that Home court advantage is most effective for basketball, but id say its the same for all the sports that run 7 game series, there for being equally important for those sports...except football..seeing there is only one game per round...and having the home town fans behind you is an immense pressure reliever to have...oppose to the away team who has to play through that...and if they don't, thats it
Duquesne - Roy exposed... said 05/12, 08:32 AM
If the NFL homefield advantage is so important, then explain to me how not once, but twice in the last 3 years teams won 3 straight ROAD playoff games (1 as the 5 seed and 1 as the 6 seed) to make and then win the Super Bowl?
You are right though, there are examples of each sport to show home field or court advantage is not as important. But examples aside, you have to look at the big picture.
Lets look at last years NFL playoffs:
In 10 games of the playoffs, home teams were 5-5 (50%)
2006-7 playoffs: 8-2 (80%)
05-06: 4-6 (40%)
04-05: 6-4: (60%)
03-04: 6-4: (60%)
so in the last 5 years home teams were 29-21 for a whopping 58% winning percentage
in this years NBA playoffs (I have a final in an hour and a half or i'd go through the last 4 playoffs):
the home teams are 44-15 or nearly 75%!
There is only 1 game in football playoffs, which means anything can happen during that game. All year working for home field advantage and you can lose it because your quarterback has a bad game.
In basketball, it's a series. The fans are right up on the action and teams feed off it. Look at the Hawks...are they anywhere near the talent level of the Celts? HELL NO!
Steveo16220 says:30 days left said 05/12, 04:13 PM
you compare one season of NFL and home/road wins and loses and not even take into consideration the fact that there is
turf /grass advantages
weather differences, rain snow, sun, windy, cold hot...depending on where the team plays...
dome or outdoors
there is WAY more to play into factor that HELPS a home team in the NFL then there is for NBA....the fans is the only part of an advantage in the NBA...other wise they play on the same hardwood court, same hoops rims and backboards, but people cheering for you rather agianst you...
Last years NBA playoffs went along the lines of 45-26= just under 60%....so, so far with comparing both leagues it seems that NFL has an 80% NBA has a 75% and they both have a 60%...so it looks pretty comparable... but i don't want to turn this into what years were better
As i can see the statistics show NBA home court plays in favor of them in stead of football, but when you break it down on what ACTUAL advantages are brought out, and not actually on the winning percentages, becasue this TD is about which is more advantageous, the football home field clearly has more to help a home team win at home...weather or not they win is not the point of the TD
Duquesne - Roy exposed... said 05/12, 04:25 PM
Some reasons for the home court advantage: In basketball, the fans are often less than a couple feet away from the court. They are on top and in a closed arena so the volume is louder than an open aired stadium even if they have more people. Also, in basketball usually the traveling is done the day before the game while in football the travelling is done a couple days before so that the players have time to adjust their internal clocks. The home team benefits from the energy the home fans give them. Its an adrenline rush that helps their game.
Math Warning:
2007 NBA playoffs - 52- 27 (66%) home court series - 10 and 5 (66.7%)
2006 - 60-29 (67%) series: 10 and 5 (66.7%)
2005 - 46- 37 (55%) series: 11 and 4 (73%)
2004 - 59-23 (72%) series: 11 and 4(73%)
2003 - 54-34 (64%) series: 12 and 3 (80%)
271 and 150 in games for 64% : 54 and 21 (72%) for the last 5 complete NBA playoffs
over that same time period NFL home teams won 58% of the time.
So in which sport is home field/court advantage more impt?
well which is more: 72% or 58%? Based on my advanced mathmatics education (thats a joke) I'd have to go with the 72% and that would be the NBA!
Steveo16220 says:30 days left said 05/12, 04:51 PM
Loud volume? NFL teams take time outs during away games becasue the crowd is too loud and the QB cant hear the plays being called to him...now thats loud and thats way more of a disadvantage than NBA fans just yelling when you shoot...becasue thats skill that makes you the FT, not due to loud noise
Ok you want stats...of course the NBA will have more home court wins....they have WAY more opportunities to win there!, when you play 4 games in your home stadium compared to only 1 in the NFL you have a 3 more games to bolster your stats by...so if you think that the % are in any favor of the NBA just becasue there are more games played at home then your mistaken
When it comes down to playing in either sport, it would be wise to take home court advantage in Football...there is only 1 game to be played and that is on your own grass field instead of your opponents turf...in your weather that you play in instead of your opponents...your dome, or open field stadium, and your type of atmosphere...NBA you see road wins happen all the time...how do you think a team wins a series? ON THE ROAD....Once again more opportunity's to win at home then of course the %'s will be higher fin the NBA
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never mind i didnt read "professional" i was going to say college football. ya basketball it is huge to have home court
jkz_BCS supporter | 05/11/08, 11:32 PM
Report Offensive Commenti'll get to arg 2 in the morning...sorry i'm beat
Duquesne - Roy exposed... | 05/12/08, 12:04 AM
Report Offensive CommentBBall and it's not even close.
Cowboys-Celtics-Chisox | 05/12/08, 05:47 AM
Report Offensive CommentDid anyone notice the Super Bowl winner won THREE games on the road just to MAKE it to the Super Bowl? Didn't Pitt do something similar a few years ago? Nah. It's easily basketball that provides the huge home court/field advantage.
Cowboys-Celtics-Chisox | 05/12/08, 05:50 AM
Report Offensive Commenti also remember the suns losing at home to the spurs, the jazz with the best at home record losing twice to Houston and then winning IN Houston on the road, Denver never winning one game at home, Orlando just dropped a game to go down 3-1 at home...i mean so there you have it...like i said in my first argument, you will have examples on both side of the sport where it is proven false....
Steveo16220 says:30 days left | 05/12/08, 07:05 AM
Report Offensive CommentThere is only 1 sport where there is an actual rules advantage to being the home team. The answer is baseball.
noydbyj | 05/12/08, 08:08 AM
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mattdogg27545 | 05/12/08, 08:27 AM
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Duquesne - Roy exposed... | 05/12/08, 08:32 AM
Report Offensive Commentoh tyler...why do i feel you're behind that comment?
Duquesne - Roy exposed... | 05/12/08, 08:33 AM
Report Offensive CommentThis would be more interesting if you could offer any reason as to why there is such an advantage.
Swayze Bandwagon Fan *BBF | 05/12/08, 08:50 AM
Report Offensive CommentDisagree with both.
It's baseball and it has nothing to do with the crowd and other such things.
It is because of the length of the road trips themselves as opposed to other sports. In baseball not only do you come to town to play a series of either 3 or 4 games but you usually have a 3,4 or 5 city tour sometimes lasting 2 weeks or more. You have no understanding of the game if you use the fact that "In baseball, rarely do teams sweep their home games" !
Series sweeps are fairly rare anyway unless a team is completely inept. It is a fact that even for good teams, their road record is most often worse than their home record and it has more to do with being on the road for such long stretches than anything else. You can't think of it in terms of games lost as the season is longer, you think of it in terms of "series" lost and you tend to lose more series on the road than at home.
[The] Coach | 05/12/08, 09:02 AM
Report Offensive Commentuh coach...i disagree with you completly....i understand baseball.....rockies went to the world series last year...they went 3-2 at home and 4-2 on the road...
and as you can tell...we're talking playoffs here
Duquesne - Roy exposed... | 05/12/08, 09:07 AM
Report Offensive CommentUmmm no you don't. The playoffs are not an accurate gauge. What makes "homefield advantage" so tough for baseball is the length of time a team is away from home. In football, other than SB week, a team is away from home 2 days at a time. In basketball, a few days. In baseball you are most usually gone for no less that 10 days usually more.
In the playoffs, a team is playing the same team in a home and away series. You play two at home, two away, etc. Your team is only away from home a couple of days. THe basball playooff format is easier than the regular season by leaps and bounds.
I have spen time playing college and minor league ball and now coach college. Two weeks of hotels, restaurants, plane/bus rides can take quite a toll. Other sports don't have quite the same schedule.
[The] Coach | 05/12/08, 09:40 AM
Report Offensive CommentThis would be more interesting if you could offer any reason as to why there is such an advantage.
Agree with you there Buffalo.
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There is only 1 sport where there is an actual rules advantage to being the home team. The answer is baseball.
Completely disagree with you noydby!
And coach...its baseball. Certainly those luxery hotels and all those fine restaurants and first class services would take its toll on those Athletes.
Home ice advantages in hockey are present with each face off, each line change, position of the home benches and line matchups. Thats just on the rule side. The fans and buildings are a different matter all together. So is Geography.
Baun-ded | 05/12/08, 10:14 AM
Report Offensive CommentThe Spurs, Hornets, Celtics, and Lakers all are undefeated at home this year in the playoffs.
You forgot the HAWKS
Analytical is Back!! | 05/12/08, 10:15 AM
Report Offensive CommentIt has nothing to do with the class of hotel, restaurant or transportation. Living out of a suitcase and away from home for extended periods of time is rough, period. While I don't normally stay at 5 star hotels when on business, I stay at comfortable places and eat at nice places as well but after awhile it gets OLD. It is far more restful to be eating in your own home, sleeping in your own bed and enjoying your family on your off hours than not.
[The] Coach | 05/12/08, 10:31 AM
Report Offensive Commentcollege environments are definatley the best of them all. But for the pros, footballl definatly has a bigger advantage. with some of the nba teams, fans dont even bother to show up. how many basketball teams do you know of that have 70,000 screaming fans in their stadium. in basketball you get 40 home games and in football you get 8. in football if your a good team you need to win at least 6 of your home games. in the nba if your in the East, you can have a losing record and still make the playoffs.
In the NFL winning home games is everything and you need to have a big advantage. Plus, Football is Americas game not any other sport
cavman5 | 05/12/08, 10:38 AM
Report Offensive CommentI disagree with you coach...its tougher being in the NHL from a travel and schedule viewpoint as well as homefield advantage differences.
Baun-ded | 05/12/08, 11:03 AM
Report Offensive Comment"(I have a final in an hour and a half or i'd go through the last 4 playoffs):"
D-E-D-I-C-A-T-I-O-N
Porkins | 05/12/08, 11:27 AM
Report Offensive CommentI reallt think it's football if we are talking about playoffs. Ok, let's put all what has transpired in the NBA and NFL playoffs aside, and let me put this in an analogy.
Say you had dartboard, and were given two options as far as hitting the bullseye. One option, you get ONLY one dart to hit the bullseye(like the NFL playoffs). The other option, you get 7 darts, but of the 7 chances you get, you have to hit the bullseye at least 4 times(like the NBA, NHL, MLB playoffs).
So under the circumstances, what shot do you think is the most important? I would think it would be the one where you only have one opportunity..one dart!! Either you make it or you don't. Either you win the one NFL playoff game or you are done. The reason being that you only have one shot instead of 7 as in a series makes the NFL playoff game more important. Having a series like the NBA or NHL gives them a little flexibility or leeway as far as losing a game because they know they can always compensate for it by winning other games in the series. The magnitude of a loss in a series is not as high as it is compared to a loss in a "lose one and your done" NFL playoff game. In the NFl, the teams do not have that opportunity to compensate hence their playoff games are more important.
If the TD was titled, which Home Field Advantage of the 4 major sports has been more "effective" rather than more 'important" then Duquesne might have a good solid argument regarding the success of the NBA teams thus far.
Ok, I am done lol. Just my 2 cents. Or it seems like it more than that anyway. lol
The Bandit | 05/12/08, 11:44 AM
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