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gonets said 05/21, 10:58 AM
I will take the runner-up, Magglio Ordonez. He led the league in batting aeverage, thus winning the batting title, with a .363 average. His OBP was .434, his SLG was .595, and his OPS was 1.029. He had 28 HRs, and 139 RBIs in 157 games, while only striking out 79 times, about an average of once every 2 games.

Honestly, I think ARod was ONLY MVP because of all the damage he did in April,a nd the fact that he hit 54 HRs. But in the postseason he choked. The Tigers never made the postseason last year,a nd so I think that helped diminish Ordonez's value as MVP, even though he carried hsi team.

Ordonez made the All-Star Game and committed only 1 error all season in right field, while racking up 261 put-outs and 4 assists. ARod committed 13 errors at third base last year, had 251 assists, and 106 put-outs. Now 13 errors in 162 games is a great ratio, but 1 error is even better. Ordonez was the better fielder, the better hitter (except the HRs), and the better all-around player in 2007.

He should have won. But ARod got it because the Yankees made the playoffs and the Tigers didnt. And that shouldnt matter.

More to come.

gonets said 05/21, 08:20 PM
Good choice, and yes the MVP award IS awarded after the regular season but before the playoffs start, so it was known that the Yanks were in and the Tigers werent. It was also known that the Sox were in it, and may I remind you that Ordonez was the RUNNER-UP, not Ortiz. Leading a team to the playoffs doesnt matter.

"Ordonez didn't get any stats in the post season because his team didn't make it, that is just saying that Ortiz is better. "

Just because Ortiz made the postseason and had postseason stats DOES NOT mean he is BETTER.

I believe also Verlander had an outstanding season, as did Guillen, and that Pudge's and Polanco's were not subpar either. However to say Manny was slumping is just plain FALSE. He hit .296, with 20 HRs and 88 RBIs. And he tore it up in the postseason, so to say he is slumping is utterly untrue. Lugo did NOT have a bad year either. He spent some of it injured, but when he played, he was the catalyst in that lineup with Dustin Pedroia. There were outstanding performances from the pitching staff as well, so to say "bad years from others" is ALSO false. Yes, Ortiz is good, but he didnt make others around him better. They were ALREADY good.

gonets said 05/22, 05:40 PM
BUT Ordonez was the runner-up, NOT Ortiz. And the voters DO consider stats. So the voters thought Mags was beter because he IS BETTER. Ortiz ISNOT THE LEADER of that team. Yes, he is good, yes his stats are better than Mags, but the team does not rally around him. he does not make any of them better. They are already good.

Mags MADE the players around him better. They may not have made the playoffs, but the team still competed, day in and day out, and showed they were not a fluke by following up a WS appearance with an 88 win season. ORtiz was the runner up in 2006 for a reason as well...he DOESNT make the players around him better. Was he a force to be reckoned with in Minnesota? No. On the contrary, he was unheard of UNTIL he got to Boston and started hitting out of his mind. Rather, its the OTHER Boston players that made HIM better, rather than him making THEM better.

Mags was awesome on the ChiSox,a nd he continues to shine on the Tigers, amking everyone around him BETTER. That is the VALUE in MVP.

Mags IS better than Ortiz, maybe not statistically, but stats arent everything.

Mags SHOULD have won MVP in 2007.