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Goodell: B-B-Bird is the word said 06/10, 04:39 PM
Ok.....

Billy Shaw.....

WHO??

Shaw was drafted by the Cowboys of the NFL and the Bills of the AFL and opted for the Bills. While in a Bills uniform for 9 seasons, he accomplished

9 straight Pro Bowls
8 All Pros
4 ALL AFL selections
Member of the ALL TIME AFL TEAM

The Bills are the only team to win back to back AFL championships and Shaw was a drving force on the OL. Thats something that Jim and company could not do in 4 apperances to the SB

Here's the ace up my sleve........Billy Shaw is the only player ever inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame without ever playing in the NFL. He spent all 9 years of his career in the AFL, yet he was good enough to be worthy of NFL HOF Honors

Former Bills Oline Coach Jerry Smith said that Shaw, " was the driving force of the offensive unit". The Bills of 1962, 1963, and 1964 still rank among the best in the team record book for most rushing touchdowns scored in a season with a total of 59 Rushing TD's over that span. Might not seem like alot now with LT and Alexander breaking records, but almost 20 rushing TD's per season is better than ANY RB can average

Good luck!

Goodell: B-B-Bird is the word said 06/11, 12:14 PM
Beside's Lifer...Im the last guy on the Planet you need to try to convince anything about Jim Kelly. Jim was so underated it wasnt funny. At least the HOF committee seen what kind of skills he really had... The only reason he didnt make MORE Pro-bowls, is only 3 QB's can make it to the PB from each conference...So with the likes of Marino and Elway in the AFC, there is only 1 spot open for Kelly, Esiason, Kosar, and others from the Era..

The Difference between Kelly and Shaw in thier respective time periods is that Shaw was the BEST OG of his time. Kelly was maybe the 3rd or 4th best QB of his time behind Montana, Elway and Marino...

Kelly also had the luxury of being around multiple HOFer's and FUTURE Hofers...Thurman, Lofton, Reed, Levy, Smith, Tasker and so on. The only HOF that Shaw lined up with is, well...NO ONE. There is not 1 HOFER from the Bills that played when Shaw was playing. However, those Bills won 2 AFL Titles.

So here you have a team that won back to back AFL titles, and the ONLY HOFer from those teams is a Offensive Lineman. That my Billieving friend is worth reading again. Go ahead, take your time and read that line again....I'll wait

*Goodell waits*

Goodell: B-B-Bird is the word said 06/11, 03:29 PM
The 64 AFL team that won the title was acutally ranked #1 in BOTH offense and Defense. The thing is that Shaw is the only person from that offense to be in the HOF...

As great as the Bills D was with the sacks and not allowing TD's, thier offense was ranked #1 also, WITH NO HOFER's except Shaw. The fact that you throw out all those stagering stats for the Bills D, only BOOSTS the credibitly of Shaw. With all sacks, and the very few Rushing TD's given up on D, the HOF committee only saw fit to elect Shaw. Shaw was the one who stood out MORE than any other guy on the Bills roster.....

More than Sestak and Jacobs...

More than Jack Kemp and Cookie Gilchrist...

Acutally, you can even go as far as to call Billy Shaw one the best AFL players of all time...Considering NO AFL player ever made 9 straight PB's with HOF honors. Every other player in the HOF has played in the NFL

"The Bills had muscle as well, in stars such as RB's Cookie Gilchrist and Wray Carlton, QB's Jack Kemp and Daryle Lamonica, and WR's Elbert Dubenion and Ernie Warlick. All AFL HOFers"

But not ONE NFL HOFer besides Shaw......Interesting, isnt it?