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If into the security recordings you go, only pain will you find.

Gruden does bring up a good point...then again, so does left.

Good start guys...keep it up. This could turn into a pretty good TD.

j23dude8... originally accepted then I had gruden. I wasnt aware that people can back out after entering. When did that option become available. Just confused me at first.

oh well Gruden is a good opponent

You have to click the TD to read what it's about and it gives you the option to accept or decline.

vote right. I am tired of all the complaining. It isn't good for the game.

You're both wrong. Replay rule, in any form, is bad for baseball for many reasons. The biggest reason is televised games. A game broadcast by ESPN, or example, will have far more cameras than one broadcast locally. In some cases a game isn't broadcast at all and might have only two or three cameras total manned by, lets say, lesser cameramen.

The home run calling problems have largely resulted from strange outfields and that silly yellow line on top of many/most outfield fences these days. Hit the ball OVER the fence and it's a home run...simple as that. It it doesn't go OVER the fence, it's not a HR.

Under NO circumstances should MLB get into going to replay to review a close play at any base. Only a casual or non baseball fan would even suggest such nonsense. Every single game has many close plays, if you give the umpires an out of going to "replay" to "make sure they get it right" the inevitable outcome is MUCH longer games.

Besides...replay doesn't and can't address the most controversial subject in baseball. Ball and strike calls by the umpire.

Overall, replay is a bad idea. The home run thing is simply to appease some critics/fans. Call it the ARod rule.

"There have been 4 or 5 screwups this week alone."

No there haven't. Maybe 3 all YEAR. Make the HR rule clear and there is no need for replay.

It isn't designed to appease fans. General Managers voted 25 to 5 for this proposal. As for tv cameras it isn't run differently at each park. The plan calls for a central office that the umpires can contact where they have live feeds from every market ie the home team's cameras, the visitors and MLB.com's television cameras. So there isn't any disparity.

I concur there are weird fences with railings, walls lines etc.. but you wont see a rule demand teams to tear down their structrues and remodel their stadiums. Letting an ump make a call for a quick review of where the ball hit is workable

Oh and I forgot to mention that the Umpires support this tool as well.Rich Reiker the liason between Umps and MLB says the umps want it. And there was another error just last night in milwaukee.

22 of our parks have that stupid yellow line issue

And poor-poor little CCC, we both aren't wrong. We both just have a different OPINION than you do. Its that attitude that makes me dislike you immensely. How about accepting that you might be wrong occasionally?

I hate this new 24hr response thing. No offense to gruden but responds at 1230 (my time Pacific coast) on fathers day and I am out then my time expires while at work. Firewalls prevent me from going to this site. Ugh

gruden copied my argument on this td

Hey ****, this is the only TD I haven't finished and it wasn't on purpose. Sunday was fathers day so I was out and didn't get chance to respond..

Now to find out you plagarize... huh and you talk about fannation heros Gruden

Gruden has not read Frank's TD on this subject. He's lying.

Wow, I just read Franks TD on this subject, and he has a completely different argument than mine. In fact, he argues against replay in any way shape or form. God I hate him when he starts crap like this without substance. And Sooner is even worse believing it without checking the facts.

Voted right. What more could I do?

Sooner, before you call someone a plagerist, maybe you need to check the source. Frank's arguments got him zero votes and he forfeited. None of his arguements even remotely look like Gruden's.

I didn't see it so I took his word. After Cassidy I checked again and did see it. His first argument is similar but not a 'copy'. So I apologize for taking his word. Why the hell would one lie about that crap. Although I still find you to be a pompus jackass.

And by the way you start against it saying it would expand then you say you want it for everything. By the way the huddle idea won't work. It doesnt give a chance for them to see it again or from an angle. If it did then it would not be an issue. Plus even if rule established a manager who is angry would still explode.