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  • June 22, 2008 10:16 AM ET

2008 NL All Star Team

Civardi (112-90-12) vs Mike4redsox: So long guys (61-71-16)
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Make a team of NL players who deserve to be in the all star game using this years stats, list first argue later using my format

C: Brian McCann
1B: Adri??n Gonz??****
2B: Chase Utley
3B: Chipper Jones
SS: Hanley Ram??rez
LF: Ryan Ludwick
CF: Nate McLouth
RF: Lance Berkman

Bench(pick two)
1. Dan Uggla
2. Willy Taveras

Starting Pitchers
1. Edinson V??lquez
2. Tim Lincecum
3. Ben Sheets
4. Johan Santana
5. Adam Wainwright

Bullpen(pick three)
RP: Kerry Wood
RP: Matt Capps
CL: Brad Lidge

Good Luck


C) Brian McCann
1B) Adrian Gonzalez
2B) Chase Utley
3B) Chipper Jones
SS) Hanley Ramirez
LF) Ryan Braun*
CF) Ryan Ludwick
RF) Lance Berkman

Bench
1) Dan Uggla
2) Nate McLouth

Starting Pitchers
1) Edinson Volquez
2) Tim Lincecum
3) Ben Sheets
4) Ryan Dempster*
5) Johan Santana

Bullpen
RP) Kerry Wood
RP) Billy Wagner*
CL) Brad Lidge


Forfeited Turn


Since we both have McLouth in our lineup; I'm going to argue Ryan Braun and Willy Taveras...

Let's check out their stats:
Braun is first

BA-.285, .247
HR-20, 1
RBI-55, 15
OBP-.323, .300
Runs Scored-44, 38
SB-7, 35

Braun is obviously a way better offensive player and leads all offensive categories other than stolen bases. So how can Braun not be on this list?

Advantage: Braun

Dempster vs. Wainwright

Dempster: 9-2, 2.63 ERA, 85 K's, 1.11 WHIP, .203 Opponent BA
Wainwright: 6-3, 3.14 ERA, 62 K's, 1.09 WHIP, .234 Opponent BA

So Dempster wins every category but WHIP, has an ERA lower by .51 points, plus Wainwright is injured and on the DL.

Advantage: Dempster

Capps vs. Wagner

Wagner: 0-1, 2.07 ERA. 16 SV, 37 K's, .94 WHIP, 5 Blown Saves
Capps: 1-2, 2.72 ERA, 17 SV, 26 K's, 1.02 WHIP, 3 Blown Saves

So Wagner has more blown saves and one less save, but has a much lower ERA, a lower WHIP, and 11 more K's, so I can't see why these guys aren't even.

Advantage: None

So My Lineup wins 2-0-1


Forfeited Turn


I want to look at Braun against Taveras again. Braun is one of the top home-run hitters and RBI guys in the National League. He's got an average better than a leadoff man, and Braun's a slugger, he's not supposed to get on base as much as a leadoff man does, but he's getting on more than Taveras. Braun is a much better choice than the Rockies Centerfielder.

Wainwright, as I said is on the DL, he's got a lhigher ERA, less K's, and opponents are hitting off of him than they are off of Dempster. Dempster is the obvious choice between these two.

Capps is probably the only spot you beat me. Though Wagner does have a much lower ERA, more strikeouts, and a lower WHIP. So again, Capps is better than Wagner, but not by that much.

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June 22, 2008  10:20 AM ET
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hey NY, since this year its in an AL Park there's a DH, just to let you know.

June 22, 2008  10:27 AM ET
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So one of your reserves can be ur dh or u can add a dh to it,ur choice ill do whatever u do

June 22, 2008  10:32 AM ET
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I just followed you format, and good luck to you too

June 22, 2008  10:34 AM ET
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Ludwick isnt a center fielder hes a right/left fielder
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6862

June 22, 2008  10:38 AM ET
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He's played at CF this year, and at the beginning of his career he started most of his games at CF, so I would qualify him as an All-Outfielder. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=5036&co ntext=fielding

June 22, 2008  11:32 AM ET
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Lance Berkman isn't a outfielder, he plays 1B and is listed on the all-star ballot as 1st baseman too.

June 22, 2008  01:28 PM ET
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Go onto yahoo.com hes 1b/rf

June 22, 2008  02:17 PM ET
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Almost went right until I saw Billy Wagner

June 23, 2008  11:29 AM ET
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wow i am legend, just because you see 1 guy on my list with no arguments left, your going to change your vote? Wow, this is what NMI was made for

June 23, 2008  04:09 PM ET
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How can u put Wagner? He has 5 blown saves.
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June 24, 2008  01:49 PM ET
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Can I ask anyone where is SP Cole Hamels, then I saw Billy Wagner(who is my favorite player because he is detroying the Mets chnaces) who has 5 blown saves. BS

June 24, 2008  02:45 PM ET
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Man NY,your parents must really be crackin' on you.Mike had an excellent argument.It would have been hard to vote left even if he had argued.

June 24, 2008  02:45 PM ET
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Ok before you vote people.NY made 1 argument.Please,good grief.

June 24, 2008  03:21 PM ET
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WHY DO U COMEPARE BRAUN AND TAVERAS I HAVE TAVERAS AS A FREGGIN BACKUP YET U COMPAIR HIM AND UR STARTING LEFT FIELDER ****!!!!!!!!!

June 24, 2008  04:13 PM ET
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Why would I compare McLouth and Braun when I have McLouth on my roster? I don't have Taveras you don't have Braun that's why I'm arguing them!!

June 25, 2008  09:34 AM ET
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Well, with 2 skipped turns, there's not much of a choice here.

June 25, 2008  09:56 AM ET
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Hmmm.... which way to turn? I'm going to take the guy who actually argued the entire thing...

"Ok before you vote people.NY made 1 argument.Please,good grief.
"Cincy" Johnny Bench | 06/24/08, 02:45 PM"

THAT'S THE PROBLEM... he only made ONE argument!!! Gotta vote >>>>>>>>>>>

 
June 25, 2008  09:57 AM ET
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WHY DO U COMEPARE BRAUN AND TAVERAS I HAVE TAVERAS AS A FREGGIN BACKUP YET U COMPAIR HIM AND UR STARTING LEFT FIELDER ****!!!!!!!!!
NY - 43 To Go | 06/24/08, 03:21 PM


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