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  • June 23, 2008 11:42 PM ET

Best Nfl team drafted after 2004

madler (29-32-4) vs 'Ey Capernicus (12-12-4)
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Make an NFL team (qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, 2 t, 2 g, c, 2 de, 2 dt, 3 lb, 2 cb, 1 ss, 1 fs) of players drafted in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
MAXIMUM OF ONE PLAYER PER DRAFT PER ROUND
MUST BE DRAFTED-NO UN DRAFTED PLAYERS
qb- Derek Anderson (2005-6)
rb- Adrian Peterson (2007-1)
rb-Marion Barber III (2005-4)
wr-marques colston (2006-7)
wr-Brandon Marshall (2006-4)
te- Chris Cooley (2004-3)
t- Marcus McNeill (2006-2)
t- Mike Roos (2005-2)
g- Shaun Andrews (2004-1)
g- Justin Blalock (2007-2)
c- Scott Wells (2004-7)
de-trent cole (2005-5)
de- jared allen (2004-4)
dt-Glenn Dorsey (2008-1)
dt-corey williams (2004-6)
lb-shaun merriman (2005-1)
lb- Jordon Dixon (2008-2)
lb-Kirk Morrison (2005-3)
cb- Antonio Cromartie (2006-1)
cb- Marcus McCauley (2007-3)
ss- Bob Sanders (2004-2)
fs- Antione Bethea (2006-6)


QB - Derek Anderson (2005 - 6)
RB - Adrian Peterson (2007 - 1)
RB - Frank Gore (2005 - 3)*
WR - Brandon Marshall (2006 - 4)
WR - Marques Colston (2006 - 7)
TE - Brad Cottam (2008 - 3)*
OT - Marcus McNeil (2006 - 2)
OT - Shane Olivea (2004 - 7)*
OG - Shawn Andrews (2004 - 1)
OG - Justin Blalock (2007 - 2)
C - Nick Hardwick (2004 - 3)*

DE - Jared Allen (2004 - 4)
DE - Trent Cole (2005 - 5)
DT - Corey Williams (2004-6)
DT - Glenn Dorsey (2008 - 1)
LB - Alex Lewis (2004 - 5)*
LB - Lofa Tatupu (2005 - 2)*
LB - Shawne Merriman (2005 - 1)
CB - Antonio Cromartie (2006 - 1)
CB - Marcus McCauley (2007 - 3)
SS - Bob Sanders (2004 - 2)
FS - Antoine Bethea (2006 - 6)

* Differences

Brad Cottam - I know some of you are thinking "what???", but with pretty good receivers and a quarterback who can get it to them, I want a big tight end who can block. That's what Cottam is. He was injured last season, but he is completely healed now and he shoed that at the Senior Bowl. He will be a superb tight end blocker.


Marion Barber III v. Frank Gore
Without starting and with 50 less carries, Barber had only 125 less yards and had twice as many TDs- he will only be better as the primary back this year
TE- Yes Cottam is a big, blocking TE-but Chris Cooley is a pro bowler-an offensive weapon that Cottam is not
Olivea was benched last year in favor of Jeromey Clary and now cannot find a team-Roos was the starter for all of last year fro TENN and will be agian-he is one of the rising young stars at LT
Alex Lewis is a scrub- he has started like 5 games his whole career and is basically a special teams player. His production has decreased since his rookie season- This year he will be the backup to Jordan Dixon
I would rather have a starter than a special teams player
Kirk Morrison is more productive than Lofa Tatupu
In each of their 3 seasons, Morrison has had more tackles, and last year he had the same number of pd, int, and sacks
Lofa gets more pub, but Morrisson is one of the most underrated players in football
HB-me
TE-me
T-me
C-you
LB-me
LB-even
4-1 me


I took Frank Gore because he has managed to succeed on an horrible team. His quarterback has been Alex Smith, a huge bust. He is the most important part of that offense and it's difficult to carry such a huge load year in and year out. We don't know if Marion Barber is capable of being the #1 running back on a team yet because he was second to Jones most of the time at Dallas and second to Maroney in Minnesota.

A big blocking TE is what I was looking for. When you have a productive offense, you don't need an offensive weapon at tight end and with good blocking, it's easier for receivers to get open. Blocking is more important to the success of a team than receiving is. If you have no good receivers a receiving tight end is important, but both receivers can catch the ball so you need a blocker.

Olivea was benched, but before that he was helping to clear the way for LDT. Lofa Tatupu was drafted in the second round of 2005, like Roos. I would take Tatupu over Roos.

Lewis is my weak spot, but I would take someone who has actually played a game in the NFL over a rookie at linebacker. Dixon is unproven and could turn out to be even worse.

Tatupu and Morrison in next argument.


The best offenses in the NFL most have good receiving TEs- NE (benjmain watson), Dallas (Jason Witten), Indy (Dallas Clark), SD (Gates)- a good receiving TE


Tatupu doesn't necessarily have less production. He may have less tackles, but he has eight career interceptions to Kirk's six, 6.5 career sacks to Kirk's two and five forced fumbles to Kirk's ONE! Only one FF! I'd say Tatupu is more productive because turnovers are more important than tackles. Tatupu has thirteen interceptions and forced fumbles, Morrison has just seven! Tatupu gives the offense the ball.

The best offenses do? What about the best teams? You left out full back, lacking an extra blocker for your RB, a blocking TE fills that void. Defense wins championships, by the way.

Roos may be better than Olivea, but you chose Roos OVER Lofa Tatupu (drafted in the same round)! Tatupu is better at linebacker than Roos is at OT. I would take Tatupu and Olivea over Roos anyday.

Alex Lewis has played forty more games in the NFL than Dixon. He has 136 career tackles to Dixon's none. Two forced fumbles and one interception to Dixon's none. Scrub, huh? I would certainly take Lewis over Dixon.

June 24, 2008  01:46 AM ET

Sorry it took so long.

June 24, 2008  04:57 AM ET

you guys got almost the same guys up there so its hard to vote man. so i gotta look at the impact positions like qb and rb and ill vote left cause of the barber pick.

<<<<<< left <<,

June 24, 2008  07:45 AM ET

Cutler>Anderson every day of the week

June 24, 2008  08:56 AM ET

These are just lists but I'm leaning right for now, I'll come back when its completed

June 24, 2008  10:16 AM ET

What about Vince Young? He's been winning without any receivers on his team.

June 24, 2008  10:47 AM ET

Roethlisberger or Eli? Both have superbowls to their credit and have accomplished far more than Derek Anderson.

June 24, 2008  01:04 PM ET

I put Roethlisberger down, but if I did I would have had to take either a non-starting linebacker or another rookie, which I didn't want to do.

June 24, 2008  01:20 PM ET

Ben was 04-you would have needed to find a different OG.

June 24, 2008  02:47 PM ET

It's more complicated than it seems, that's why I had so few differences. If I took a different OG then I would take a linebacker where the the OG was, resulting in other problems throughout my team.

June 24, 2008  05:06 PM ET

hit enter by accident- meant to say you need a good TE
Olivia lost his job-yes he was good a couple of years ago, but he lost his job and cannot get signed
I would rather have a promising rookie than a proven scrub

June 24, 2008  10:39 PM ET

Vote to Ey...better arguments.

June 24, 2008  10:55 PM ET

Wow, no one has D. Ware and the LB's

June 24, 2008  11:00 PM ET

I'd ake a big TE to.

June 24, 2008  11:00 PM ET

take a big TE my bad.

June 25, 2008  02:43 PM ET

you have six difference out of 22 players, heck of a throwdown, point obviously goes to madler

 
June 25, 2008  03:24 PM ET

Brad Cottam? gotta go left here

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