SFAHW: Manager of the year in the NL?
phillyfansrockz:BEAT METS!! said 07/08, 04:44 PM
I will have to say that Willie Randolph! No, I am just kidding, haha. Well my pick for manager of the year will be Lou Piniella.
I say Lou because he turned a averag MLB team to the best team in the N.L. He has a great record as head coach this year (53-36), and maybe just maybe he will turn the curse of the Cubs around this year, I can tell you that Lou put together one of the best Cubs teams that Chicago saw.
dudeman. said 07/09, 02:17 PM
"I can tell you that Lou put together one of the best Cubs teams that Chicago saw."
Wait, Lou Piniella is the GM of the Cubs and got all these players?
Yes, the Cubbies have been great, but how can you say they were an average team? We are talking about the team with Derek Lee, Alfonso Soriano, Aramis Ramirez, Kosuke Fukudome, Carlos Zambrano, etc. right? The Cubs were built to win, and they have done just that. In my mind, Piniella really hasn't been the key to their winning. The Manager of the Year is supposed to take his team to a level that they weren't expected to reach, but that's not what Piniella has done, because they were expected to be this good.
My pick has taken a team that most would say had one expectation this season - to be in the cellar. They were supposed to be under .500 and not supposed to contend. They had lost their best hitter and a pitcher who was supposed to be their franchise pitcher.
Fredi Gonzalez took a very young team in the Florida Marlins and has brought them to 2 games over .500, and only 1 game behind the Phillies in the NL East, and it's JULY!
They were supposed to fall off the face of the Earth, but Gonzalez has kept them in it.
phillyfansrockz:BEAT METS!! said 07/09, 02:35 PM
You said that "The Manager of the Year is supposed to take his team to a level that they weren't expected to reach" but look at 07, and 05 managers of the year, well they both had teams that were expectied to be good, and they still won.
What I am trying to say is your quote isn't always true, because the D-Backs and the Braves both had high expections each one of those years, and since they had good teams the whole year they won the award.
That is why I picked Piniella because he has and will have have a good season this year, and they are probably going to go deep into october(I hope the Phillies go longer, haha)
I see why you picked F. Gonzalez, but if history repeats itself then I think that Piniella will win the award, just because he has a good team, and I think that he will have a Gonzalez won't have as good of a team.
dudeman. said 07/10, 02:51 PM
Fredi has managed to bring a team that had absolutely no expectations into a race for the NL East, while Piniella took a team that was expected to be dominant, and, well, made it dominant.
The Cubs are as good as they were hyped up to be while the Marlins are a lot better than what was expected.
The Cubs still aren't the best team in MLB, and they aren't running away with their division. The Marlins have terrible pitching but are still nipping at the heel of the Phillies.
phillyfansrockz:BEAT METS!! said 07/10, 03:44 PM
The Cubs are clearly the best team in the NL leading the second best by 4.5 games and the Marlins by 8 games. And the reason they did this was because of their great coaching!
I don't really think that there is much more to argue because I said that they will select Piniella because he has the best team in the NL, and you said Fredi because they were the underdog. But what I am saying is the last couple of years they didn't select the underdog they selected the best coach there was which is currently Lou, I guess we will have to see with voting, and can't wait to see how the end of the season turns out.
dudeman. said 07/11, 04:09 PM
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Comments (5)
Didnt have much time for the 2nd argument.
dudeman. | 07/10/08, 02:52 PM
Report Offensive CommentDidnt have much time for the 2nd argument.
dudeman. | 07/10/08, 02:52 PM
Report Offensive CommentI agreed with > but a forfeited turn means
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The Pitt Panther Strikes Again | 07/11/08, 04:41 PM
Report Offensive CommentPiniella is a thought, but he has had talent-riddled teams for awhile, and besides, he won the Central last year anyways. Fredi Gonzalez is a better choice, but dudeman did miss his 3rd argument.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 07/11/08, 04:46 PM
Report Offensive CommentI changed my mind >
The Pitt Panther Strikes Again | 07/12/08, 02:41 PM
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