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rstowe said 07/14, 10:05 AM
There was 1 major reason he didn't win (plus, who cares anymore? - he is no longer in college and winning the heismann is almost a curse for your NFL career anyways) - the reason is he disappeared in some games:

Against Auburn: 43 yds rushing in 17 attempts
Against Florida International: 61 yds rushing in 19 attempts
Against Missippi State: 88 yds rushing in 28 attempts

If you are a heisman winner, you do not only get 61 yds rushing against FIU! Arkansas still won those games that McFadden played poorly in so he wasn't as big of a "cornerstone" as you think. The games Tebow played poorly in, Florida lost (LSU, GA). You take Tebow off the Gators and they have more than 3 losses. Arkansas showed that they could win without McFadden.


If he produced every game he might have won it - plus what Tebow did by passing for over 20 TDs and rushing for 20 was historic.

rstowe said 07/14, 10:31 AM
Judging by your avatar, you are a Razorback homer and obviously are still upset at Tebow winning the Heisman even half a year later.....however.....

your first point in your second argument that they won those games without him because they weren't very good at all - then he should have DOMINATED them when he did get the carries but he didn't....

Yes, McFadden had a great season but Tebow had a record setting season - when 2 players are close in accomplishments, the guy who did something that had never been done before is going to win the Heisman.

Like I said in my first argument - McFadden is better off NOT winning the Heisman - that is pretty much a jinx when it comes to NFL careers! Let Tebow win the Heisman and continue to play at Floriday but will be a bust in the NFL, while DMac stands a pretty good chance of being an outstanding NFL player.

It's 6 months later, let it go! Plus, all the Heisman is, is a bunch of rich, white guys in NY who don't really follow NCAA football, but want to feel important so in the grand scheme of things - does it really matter that he didn't win it? Would it have made him get drafted higher? I don't think so, so just let it go.

rstowe said 07/14, 11:14 AM
Okay, so you say DMac revolutionized the position because he was a receiver and a running back? There was another RB that had better stats in both categories than DMac - Kevin Smith of UCF.

Smith had 2567 yds rushing and 29 rushing TDs (DMac - 1830 and 16 TDs). Smith had 242 yds receiving and a 10.1 yard per catch average (DMac - 164 yds and a 7.8 yard per catch average).

So how could DMac revolutionize the position while there was at least 1 more RB in the nation with better stats? Smith also was 1 for 1 in passing for a TD (compared to 6 for 11 for 4 TDs for DMac).

So while McFadden had a great season, it wasn't even the best numbers for a RB last season (just pure numbers). Ray Rice and Matt Forte as well had more rushing and receiving yards than DMac....so right there are 3 WRs with better rushing and receiving yards, the only DMac has over them is the passing stats - which isn't that big of a deal.