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Ellsbury Rocks said 08/10, 04:29 PM
Ok now that Manny is gone his 20 million from this year will be off the payroll from this year along with Schills wasted 13 million and the Captains 10 million a year contract end. What should they do with this money during this offseason when Manny, Tex, CC, Sheets, and Burrell are leading a deep and talented free agent class.

I say they sit pretty and reward the players that have helped them win two world series and many games since new ownership took over. Instead of taking a 20+ mil a year on a CC, Tex, or any other player that they really dont need they do this.

Lock up Paps to a good 13 million a year contract for 5 years because we definitly do not want him to leave us without a closer again. That gives them 30 million left.

Give Jason a two year 22 million contract and the second year be an option. He isnt good offensivily but hes the captain and there are no good replacements. 19 mil left.

See what Bay wants. If he wants 20 million a year then say no way jose. If he wants 14 million a year then they should give it to him. Thats only a 7 million raise and they still have 12 mill.

Other than that they dont do anything but pick up wakes option.

Disagree TD

Ellsbury Rocks said 08/10, 05:39 PM
Corrections i was talking about Johnathan not Papi when i said resign paps but im sure you agree with that so i wil just argue the differences.

get better value with Holliday.- Im not too sure Holliday is better value. I mean he has slightly better stats but remember he gets a big boost from Coors where he hits .371 and 8 more HR and almost 30 more RBI. Plus his agent is Boras and that means he will want 20 mil a year. Bay on the other hand would be fine with a Drew like contract of 14 mil a year.

Wait on Bay- That makes sense but then he might have a monster year and want tons of cash. He also might get upset with his agent and get Boras which means he will want even more cash. I say lock him up and hope it works out so he doesnt want tons of cash

You want them to get rid of the captain and the guy who has caught the most no hitters ever by a catcher. Thats no coincidence the guy knows how to call a ballgame and researches like a beast. Sure Pudge hits a lot better but wont know the pitchers and wouldnt get the respect to be able to lead the team.

Ben Sheets- No 5 year deals for mr inury prone. THey dont need him either with Wake, JB, Dice, Jon, Clay, and tons of depth

Ellsbury Rocks said 08/10, 06:15 PM
He was great for a long time, but now he is too much of a liability on offense. I want Pudge.- The thing is that pitching wins in postseaons and Pudge wont be able to call games with our pitchers like Jason can. He has been he catcher for the guys ever since they played for us and they all have good relationships with him. Even with his .222 we have a top 5 offense so we dont need Pudge

Its not just that Coors is a small park but rather that the gravity differences makes the ball fly. To stop that from affecting the game they made the park pretty huge. Thats why he hits .371 there because the OF is huge for singles/doubles/and triples. At fenway his HR total might not be hurt but his average will be.

Ok why wait and might have to sign him to a mega deal when they could just resign him now and if it doesnt workk out not that big of a deal.

Sheets has been injured contanly so no way any team including the Sox will give him a 5 even 4 year deal because of that.

Ok Clay has the talent to become an ace so sticking with him would be cheaper by 15 mil and might get the same thing.

Also in the 09 offseason Pedoria, Lester, and Youk will want more cash so they cant waste 15