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EagleHater: Goodbye, FN said 08/26, 02:30 AM
Just a few changes...

1. Same
2. Same
3. Manning- Harrison (arguably the best tandem of all-time... a drop off due to one injury that looks to have healed? Don't kill them for that!)
4. Bulger- Holt
5. Manning- Wayne
6. Palmer- Chad Johnson
7. Brees- Colston
8. Palmer- Houshmandzadeh
9. Manning- Burress
10. Cutler- Marshall


You GOTTA get rid of Schaub to Johnson. Seriously? That lethal duo has produced all of 32 catches for for 535 yards and 5 TDs. Oh man, I'm terrified!

Replace them with Cutler- Marshall, which has had 116 completions, for over 1,600 yards and 8 TDs.


Also, replace Andersen-Edwards with Manning- Burress, a combo which has netted 209 passes for 3,227 yards and 29 TDs.



You placed way too much emphasis on one hit wonders. I know this isn't whole career, but still, Manning has arguably been the best QB in the NFL the last 4-5 years, and Harrison it's best receiver in that span. Yet one hitters Andersen-Edwards top 'em? No way!

Also, Bulger to Holt has been one of the best combos in the NFL. Ever since Bulger's first 7 starts in '02, Holt has had 91-117 catches, 1,188-1,696, and 4-12 TDs EVERY YEAR! Those are AWESOME numbers!

EagleHater: Goodbye, FN said 08/26, 04:31 PM
Alright, since for some reason fannation logged me out and deleted my last argument, I'll sum it up a bit.

First, Manning to Harrison is a lethal combo. They have to be up high. Two HoFers have been great, recently and in the past. An injury that appears to have healed is no reason to put one shot wonders over them.

Second, your Schaub-Johnson argument is completely flawed. Why? BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED! Great! I'm glad that they did well statistically per game, but that doesn't make you great! You have to do it on the field, not in the calculator. Only 5 games together doesn't make them some awesome tandem. They both were hurt, and thus were not great with each other. And it probably wasn't a fluke- Johnson always seems to have nagging injuries, and in his first year starting, Schaub missed significant time with two separate injuries. Basically, you have nothing to go on there. With two injury prone players, that duo might NEVER play together more than 10 or 11 games a season!

Basically, the, "well, over a WHOLE SEASON..." argument doesn't work. Injuries are too big a factor for you to ignore. Greg Cook and Ki-Jana Carter might have been all time greats if they could stay healthy, but that???s football. Let???s see those two actually do something together before we crown ???em.

Now, don???t try to counter that with me having Bulger-Holt so high, because those two have PRODUCED.

They consistently manage to create greatness. Last year is hard to tell due to the injury to Bulger and the whole offense in general getting hurt. But from 04-06 in 45 games together, they put up over 280 catches for nearly 3,900 yards and 30 TDs. Doubt at your own risk if you still don't trust the Pro Bowl QB and future HoF- receiver.

In reference to Braylon Edwards and Adersen, you're off base. You say they have the most potential of anyone at their positions? Really? Because see, I hear this Jay Cutler kid described by everyone as the next great QB. Yet, Andersen is being treated warily contract wise even by his own team! Edwardsa may also have more potential than Brandon Marshall, but they don't call him "Mini-TO" just because he does some dumb stuff. But what REALLY flaws your argument is how high you have them. How do they go over Palmer- Johnson??? Johnson and Palmer have gone at it together for several years and put up numbers that put guys in the Hall if they keep it up over a career. Manning-Harrison solidifed both as HoFers and possible GOATS at their positions... and on and on!

EagleHater: Goodbye, FN said 08/27, 12:24 PM
Look in the comments for the explanation of why I wrote so much- it WAS an accident.

Anyway, yes, I did criticize your one hit wonders, BUT I just said you had too many of them. I had Cutler- Marshall at #10, the last spot. And they were my only pair. YOU, however, had Edwards-Andersen MUCH higher, at #6 and over greats like Palmer-CJ and Manning-Harrison, and then you ALSO had Schaub-Johnson at #10. And they aren't even on hit wonders. They're 1/3rd hit wonders, really!


Now you OBVIOUSLY didn't read my argument if you think I am contradicting myself on Bulger-Holt when I criticize Schaub and Johnson for being injured. So I'll say it again: Schaub and Johnson HAVE NOT PRODUCED YET! Yes, they SEEM great when they play together, but that has only been FIVE GAMES! Do you crown a Super Bowl winner after 5 games?

Now, Bulger, he gets hurt a lot too. HOWEVER, he has played several DOZEN games with Holt, showing with ACTUAL PRODUCTION (unlike the math and averaging you had to use to make Schaub look good.) We know that Bulger may be hurt just like Schaub, yet they have ALREADY combined for several hundred more passes, thousands more yards, and dozens more TDs. They have a sample to go on