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Holmgren has no WRs and a running game that is a shadow of Shaun Alexander in his prime. ZERO suprise they are 0-2.

Browns were supposed to be the new up and coming AFC playoff juggernaut. Its not that they lost to two better teams in the Cowboys and Steelers, its the WAY they lost. They have had two straight PATHETICALLY anemic HOME losses if you look at their OFFENSE which has produced a grand total of 16 points in two games. When you play the Boys and Steel, you can not begin to dream of winning those games when your offense is playing as if you are wearing Miami Dolphins uniforms. Vote KP. Duh.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Norv Turner.

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Originally posted 10:59 PM ET  09.19 by outlaw is Gar fishing

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Norv Turner.

Dude, shake yourself. Norv has lost two games on LAST SECOND PLAYS, one of which, a victory was taken away from his team by an NFL official. Romeo has embarrassed us all who thought the Derek Anderson to Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr plus a vet at RB in Jamal Lewis would put up tons of points and simply outscore people. Reality: its the Browns and that means even the slightest bit of 2007 optimism should have been instantly translated as: 2008 letdown. Hello....................McFly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike Shannahan

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Originally posted 11:02 PM ET  09.19 by Cassidy's House: Priceless

Dude, shake yourself. Norv has lost two games on LAST SECOND PLAYS, one of which, a victory was taken away from his team by an NFL official. Romeo has embarrassed us all who thought the Derek Anderson to Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr plus a vet at RB in Jamal Lewis would put up tons of points and simply outscore people. Reality: its the Browns and that means even the slightest bit of 2007 optimism should have been instantly translated as: 2008 letdown. Hello....................McFly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Norv has no being a head coach, he sucked before he came to San Diego, he sucks while in San Diego, he just had a stacked team which got him the wins, he is a cry baby, and he'll be gone by the 2009 NFL season.

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Originally posted 11:12 PM ET  09.19 by outlaw is Gar fishing

Norv has no being a head coach, he sucked before he came to San Diego, he sucks while in San Diego, he just had a stacked team which got him the wins, he is a cry baby, and he'll be gone by the 2009 NFL season.

I'm going to be honest, I never wanted Norv. I wanted Marty, but no 14-2 wasn't good enough. I know I have my fingers crossed for Jason Garret. Soon enough

Outlaw: Turner
Confucious: Shannahan

No rivalry there... :-)
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As for the TD, on names alone I would say Crennel. No vote yet though.

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Originally posted 11:12 PM ET  09.19 by outlaw is Gar fishing

Norv has no being a head coach, he sucked before he came to San Diego, he sucks while in San Diego, he just had a stacked team which got him the wins, he is a cry baby, and he'll be gone by the 2009 NFL season.

Hey dumbarse, Norv just took this Chargers team to the AFC Championship and the only reason they didnt get into the Bowl was because at the time they lost to a 18-0 going on an 18-1 team. Do you watch the NFL or just talk out your arse? Marty Schjttenhimer, one of the MOST overrated NFL coaches of all time took a 14-2 Chargers team to the playoffs only to lose at home in their first playoff game. Martyball sucks and the Chargers are better off with Norv running the show. Step it up Outlaw, thinking opposite me makes you look plain dumb.

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Originally posted 11:40 PM ET  09.19 by Cassidy's House: Priceless

Hey dumbarse, Norv just took this Chargers team to the AFC Championship and the only reason they didnt get into the Bowl was because at the time they lost to a 18-0 going on an 18-1 team. Do you watch the NFL or just talk out your arse? Marty Schjttenhimer, one of the MOST overrated NFL coaches of all time took a 14-2 Chargers team to the playoffs only to lose at home in their first playoff game. Martyball sucks and the Chargers are better off with Norv running the show. Step it up Outlaw, thinking opposite me makes you look plain dumb.

Look at Norv's overall winning percentage.

Any great coach could have won the superbowl with SD's stacked team last year, and yes Marty was a better coach than Norv, Norv is still debating suicide over last weeks game.

You don't know everything about sports obviously, because you think Norv Turner is a good coach.

Mike or Norve......idk which is worse.
But with the Browns it's not as much as the coaching as it is the players sloppy offensive plays. Plus all their penalties!

Mike Shanahan>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Norv Turner, and that's not just coming from me a Broncos fan, Mike has lost his luster, but he is still better than Norv Turner.

Love ya KP, but the most disappointing coach in the NFL thus far works in Cincinnatti. Holmgren and Crennell have both shown signs of life. All I've seen in Cincinnatti are signs of the apocalypse.

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Originally posted 12:03 AM ET  09.20 by outlaw is Gar fishing

Look at Norv's overall winning percentage.Any great coach could have won the superbowl with SD's stacked team last year, and yes Marty was a better coach than Norv, Norv is still debating suicide over last weeks game.You don't know everything about sports obviously, because you think Norv Turner is a good coach.

You are making your dumbarse looking more foolish with each post. NOBODY was even close to being worthy of the AFC rep in the Superbowl than the Pats. Gods gift to NFL coaches couldnt have led SD to a win in New England last year in the playoffs. Get real dude.

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Originally posted 12:26 AM ET  09.20 by Cassidy's House: Priceless

You are making your dumbarse looking more foolish with each post.

Says the MO RON who voted based on two names. Foolish? Look in the mirror, Roy.

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Originally posted 12:26 AM ET  09.20 by Cassidy's House: Priceless

You are making your dumbarse looking more foolish with each post. NOBODY was even close to being worthy of the AFC rep in the Superbowl than the Pats. Gods gift to NFL coaches couldnt have led SD to a win in New England last year in the playoffs. Get real dude.

Cass, get it through your f'in head, Norv Turner is not a good coach, any knowledgeable Chargers fan will even tell you, I swear sometimes you don't know what you are talking about.

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Originally posted 12:38 AM ET  09.20 by outlaw is Gar fishing

Cass, get it through your f'in head, Norv Turner is not a good coach, any knowledgeable Chargers fan will even tell you, I swear sometimes you don't know what you are talking about.

Sometimes?

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Originally posted 12:44 AM ET  09.20 by Cowboys-Celtics-Chisox

Sometimes?

Guess I was giving to much credit when it wasn't due.

KP - I don't think I've ever seen one of your TDs. Where have I been? I'm leaning Left, I'm leaning right, okay , I'm waiting for arguments.

The title of this throwdown is "Worst Disappointing NFL Coach...". Worst and Disappointing is a double negative, is it not? As opposed to "Most Disappointing" which would make the disappointment greater. Therefore, KP is saying that Crennel is a better coach than Holmgren and Hemoglobin is siding with MH, right?

I'm confused! Never the less, I think if I vote, I'll vote for KP, because the Hemoglobin isn't...

<<<Drum roll please>>>

...in my blood!

BTW, the most disappointing coach this year is Brad Childress