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lanceuppercut:Ferloff-Quack! said 11/19, 03:52 PM
I don't lnow if you meant Kerry Collins or what, but either way I am going with Chad Pennington. Pennington just a year ago was benched for what seemed like the 5th straight season, due to his lack of arm strength or whatever, and in the off-season was dumped for absolutely nothing in return, by the Jets. What did he do to respond?? Signs with the 1-win Dolphins in the off-season and wins the starters job over 2nd rd pick, John Beck. Beck didn't get injured, or go cuckoo for Pennington to get the job, he won it. And has responded by leading the Dolphins to a respectable 6-4 record, and he is also in the top 7 in QB Rating, Completion %, Int. %, and passing yards. This from a scrap heap player that was benched and dumped by the Jets. Not bad, and he is my non- Kurt Warner CBPOY.

lanceuppercut:Ferloff-Quack! said 11/19, 04:22 PM
Coming back from a terrible season is warrants CBPOY cosideration? He is an above average player this season but he isn't a former pro bowler, like Pennington. He never led his defense like Pennington led his offense in 2002, and 2004. He wasn't benched, or dumped...he just didn't have good numbers last season, hardly the material to put him in the conversation of CBPOY. Pennington on the other hand was left for dead. The only reason the Dolphind were even interested was b/c of Parcells relationship with his former QB. Not a single other team was going to even offer him the chance to compete for the starting spot, yet he went into Miami with a chip on his shoulder and won that spot, and has been one of the 3 best QB's in the AFC. He has helped Miami completely turn it around this season while Collins has done what?? Everyone thought you meant KERRY for crying out loud, that is how out there this pick is. He is a young safety, only in his 3rd season starting, hardly a long enough career to "comeback" from a bad one. If he was coming back from a terrible injury is one thing but just rebounding from a sub-par season is not enough. He isn't even in my top 10.

lanceuppercut:Ferloff-Quack! said 11/19, 08:18 PM
First off, I am done dealing with that moron who is babling about cheating it is ridiculous, and has been reported.

Moving on, what exactly did Collins "come back" from, is my biggest question? This is usually given to guys that were once good to very good, dropped off for a major amount of time, and out of nowhere play very well again, and/or they suffer a serious injury or illness and defy the odds by playing productive football. Collins' numbers were bad last season..big whoop his team won 13 games and went to the NFC Championship game. His play obviously didn't matter too much last season, and I just don't get what he has come back from. Pennington was benched and released for crying out loud! He was JOBLESS 5 months ago. Collins never lost his spot as the starter, he just didn't put up great numbers last season. Here are other players that have , IMO, done the same thing that Collins has done:

J. Porter- 8.5 sks last year, 13.5 already this year
C. Hope- 11 games, 49tkl,2 INT/ 55tkl, 4 int this year
D. Williams 715 rushing yrd/800 this year

The big part is Pennington's situation. Collins wasn't cut, hurt or sick, or even benched. Which is why he ain't CBPOY.