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The Biggest FanNation Tourney Ever - Round 1: Who's the best active QB to back up Favre since 1992?

Oso's back-Sort of said 09/30, 02:22 PM
There are three outstanding active QB's who all had the honor of being 2nd or 3rd string behind Brett Favre since 1992. After great deliberation I had to choose the one who has had the shortest but most brilliant career; Kurt Warner. He's the classic rags-to-riches story. He rose from store clerk to SB MVP. No other Favre backup has won 2 Season MVP awards or 1 SB MVP award. Warner currently has the second highest completion % behind Peyton Manning. Not bad company to be in.

Brian Urlacher said 09/30, 06:00 PM
I will choose Mark Brunell. Brunell has more completions, yards, and more passing touchdowns. Brunell could also run the ball to. If he got in trouble and was about to get sacked he could get away. Brunell has 2433 rushing yards with 15 touchdowns. Warner has 263 with 2 tds. Brunell has 2738 comp. Warner has 1660. Brunell has 31826 yards. Warner has 20849. Brunell has 182 passing tds. Warner 127. Mark Brunell was a 3 time pro bowler also. Kurt Warner also had better teams around him and for that put him in the spot light more often to get those 2 mvp awards. Mark Brunell has been a better qb than Kurt Warner. Now when you say Kurt Warner and Mark Brunell you think Kurt was the better qb but Brunell has the better numbers. Brunell was the better all around qb.

Oso's back-Sort of said 09/30, 06:24 PM
Brunell's stats are from being on good teams and playing for almost as many years as Favre. Favre started in 1992, Brunell started in 1995. It's hypothetical, but if Warner played that long with his accuracy, he'd surpass Brunell.

But I won't dwell on what could have been. The fact still lies in that Brunell was sacked a stunning 389 times for 2388 yards! That's almost as many as he had from rushing. Brunell is not as proficient as Warner. He threw only 182 TD's and 106 INT's in 15 seasons, with a 59.6 completion %, and an 84.2 Rating. Warner on the other hand threw 127 TD to 83 INT, with the 65.7% and an all time career high 94.2 rating in his 10 seasons.

Brian Urlacher said 09/30, 07:03 PM
Ok if you say that he didn???t have as long as career as Brunell we will look at the averages. Brunell averages 211 completions a year. While Warner averaged 166 a year. Brunell averages 2448 passing yards a year. While Warner averaged 2084. Brunell averaged 14 tds a year. While Warner averaged 12. While Brunell???s completions % isn???t quite as high doesn???t mean Warner was much more accurate than Brunell. Brunell averages 8.1 interceptions a year. Warner averages 8.3 a year. So if you would add those averages to the same amount of time Brunell played. Brunell still has the better numbers. While Brunell did get sacked all those times means his line was not very good. So that means he had to get out of the pocket and earn those yards he gained. That also says his team wasn???t as good as Warner???s teams were. I didn???t say that Brunell???s teams weren???t good teams I am saying that Warner???s teams were better making his stats better. Also Bunell only has been in the league for 13 years.

Oso's back-Sort of said 09/30, 11:39 PM
Making averages only favors a player who's career spans from 1993 to present (15 years, he was active 13 if you count this year). The longer you play, the more stats you get to rack up, the better your averages are.

Comparing teams is apples and oranges. Both QB's had great players on their respective teams. However, Warner won 2 regular season MVP's and one SB MVP, not to mention a SB ring, which is the ultimate accomplishment in the NFL.

These awards, unlike Pro Bowl berths, show that Warner was instrumental to his teams success, not a cog in the system.

Warner has the highest career completion %, the third higest career QB rating, and even to this day is able to come off the bench and put his team back into the game.

Brian Urlacher said 10/01, 07:55 PM
How does making averages favor the player that plays longer it definitely doesn???t. It favors the player that plays shorter. It is simple math. 130 divided by 13 is 10 while 130 divided by 2 is 65. This means that you have to be consistent longer and that means that you are better. That doesn???t mean that because a player plays longer that his averages automatically are going to go up you have to play good to have good numbers. Here are some qbs that never won a super bowl and are better than Warner. Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Fran Tarketon, Warren Moon, Dan Fouts. Here is a qbs that have won mvp awards and haven???t won a super bowl. Steve McNair, Rich Gannon, and Y.A. Tittle. Also there was another player on the team that won an mvp award also, Marshall Faulk. The only one team to have three straight mvps by 2 different players. Hinting that Warner did have the better teams. Also how is comparing teams like apples to oranges people compare teams all the time. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of. How do you think choose who is going to win or lose oh wait they compare them or how do people choose who is the best team ever oh wait they compare them.

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mark brunell was way better than warner. if he was on st. louis, you would be talking hof first ballot.

CW1984 | 09/30/07, 02:29 PM

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