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awc1230 said 10/24, 12:04 PM
Ill take Brandon Webb over Erik Bedard. Webb is #2 in IP, tied for the 3rd most wins with an offense that lacks a big threat. He also has big games in that he lead the leagues in SHO and was 2nd in CG, not to mention his 3.01 ERA.

But here is how Webb and Bedard rank up against each other.

IP- Webb
W- Webb
CG- Webb
SHO- Webb
K- Bedard
ERA- Webb
WHIP- Bedard, by .1
K/9- Bedard, by far the better strikeout pitcher of the two

But, I take Webb because he is the best sinkerball pitcher in the game. If I am making a pitching staff, I want a player that can produce a double play, which is what sinkerball pitchers do best.

Webb is also more durable, eating up way more innings and is less injury-prone. 3 out of the past 4 years for Bedard has included injuries of some sort including time on the DL, whereas Brandon Webb has rarely missed a start, and has never been placed on the DL. Webb has started no less than 34 games in a season, except for his rookie year where he started 28 games. A regular fullseason starter usually goes 30+ starts when not injured throughout the entire season. So keep in mind that Bedard has only surpassed the 30+ GS mark once in his career.

awc1230 said 10/24, 05:33 PM
You see, thats the thing. Bedard has been an IF his career thus far. I dont want to hear about a for sure Cy Young in the beggining of the season. Thats bs. A couple years ago Garland was the for sure Cy, and this year everyone was sure it would be Beckett when he hadnt had a lost. Regardless about the hardware, Webb is the better OUT pitcher.

The sinkerball pitch it an outpitch, the curveball is not. Bedard might have a sick curveball, but a sick curveball wont be swung at by a good hitter. Adam Laroche even said that in order to make contact with Webb???s sinkerball you have to guess on how many inches to swing under the ball. Also, over their careers, and taking out Bedards not true rookie season, Webb averages 50% more doubleplays, because of the sinkerball.

You argue who has better stuff? Are you going to tell me Webb???s ???stuff??? isn???t simply amazing, especially after not giving up a run after 40+ consecutive innings?

I also want consistency out of my pitcher. Bedard went 7+ innings in only half of his starts in the 2007 season. Webb went 7+ innings into a game every start with the exception of only seven starts.

awc1230 said 10/24, 08:05 PM
So now your saying a better K pitcher makes a better baseball pitcher? Are you saying farnsworth is better than maddux simply because of the K factor? Im saying that Webb and Bedard have different styles, and I personally thing Webb's is more effective. Funny how you say the NL East has the worst offence, becasue that was the toughest division this year. No, the Giants dont have a good lineup, but the Diamondbacks, Rockies, and Padres offences arent half bad. They dont get a lot of credit, but they do enough to win. Webb still faces other lineups, so its not like he JUST faces the NL east either.

Why cant I use stats? Because Bedard wasnt durable enough to last an entire season to make his stats comparable? Another reason Webb's better. Not because of the stats soley, but because he can atleast obtain these stats without getting injured!

Webb= meatball? Bedard gave up 7 MORE homeruns this year than Webb, despite pitching almost 50 less innings. So if ur calling Webb a meatball, i dont really know if there is a word to describe Bedard.

I think Bedard should be on this list later in his career, when and if he can prove to be as reliable and durable as Webb has proven to be