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awc1230 said 12/04, 07:17 PM
First off, Kobe should not be on this list. Hes a great player, but you are wrong on his transaction part. Kobe was traded from the Hornets to the Lakers for Vlade Divac following his draft in 1996.

His replacement? Not a fancy guy. Not a big scorer. But he does what he needs to do. His name? Manu Ginobili.

And to be different , Ill take CP3 over Deron Williams. CP3 is averaging a double double with 20 point and 10 assists a game, and is leading his team to a 12-6 start.

Deron averages 19 points, 9 assists, and 1 less rebound per game.

These two players are very hard to argue against, they have very similar stats, however, I do think that CP3 is working with less talent that D-Will. (D-Will leading his more talented team to a 13-5 start)

Im not going to argue Manu against Kobe, Manu is the better team player, but Kobe is a better overall player. I was just stating that you were wrong about his non-transaction status.

awc1230 said 12/04, 08:36 PM
The title to the argument is the best current non-transaction team. Did Kobe ever suit up for the Hornets? No. But was he was involved in a transaction between two team? Yes. Therefore, your argument and title contradicts itself.

Your points for D-Will, on the other hand are completely irrelevant and do not show why D-Will is better than CP3. The point is, CP3 has better overall numbesr than D-Will, and is doing so with worse overall players.

D-Will in not an obvious choice. If he were, **** have better numbers than CP3, if he were an obvious choice **** have a much better record than CP3. Having D-Will play for a certain coach doesn't make him the better choice--put CP3 in with Sloan and see what happens. Deron had to earn his stripes? What, are you a spokesman for Kelloggs? SO DOES EVERY PLAYER IN THE NBA. Williams did get his team to the finals, because he plays for a better team than CP3 plays for. And, the Jazz did not get to the finals. What does a comparison to Kidd have anything to do with anything? He might penetrate better to the basket, but at the end of the day, it doesnt matter how you score, as long as you score. And CP scores and dishes more.
Hornets=Force/ 4th seed

awc1230 said 12/04, 10:45 PM
Well..there 4th seed right now, I dont see why they cant keep it up. They play well together. Teams infront of them and behind them will have struggles through the season. Whos to say the Hornets cant be the suprise team in the west this year? After all, you should know about theat..the Jazz werent expected to do much last year and they got, guess what, the 4th seed.

That post was also completely off topic as it relates to your argument, by the way.